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blue_tulips_05
05:48 pm - evaluations from the girls and giving out programs-yay or nay?
I've taken over a unit of 5-10 year olds this year. (how to plan for girls who are 5 and those 10 and even 11 is proving a bit of a challenge as well) I jsut wanted to ask members of this community what they  thought about a few things,because the leader i took over from didnt do osme of these actvities,but others i know do.


Evaluating with the girls would have to be important,right? Sorry if that's obvious but i doubt that the leader i took over from did this at all. After my first meeting i asked the girls to put thier thumbs up if they liked the night,thumbs down if thye didnt( closing eyes first so that thye weren't biased by what their friends were picking) They were surprised to evne be asked,but seemed to really appreciate it. 

I've also thought of making a comment sheet,choosing stickers and placing them in a good/ok/bad coloumn,picking a lolly which best represents how thye feel about the night. Does anyone have any other ideas? Do you evaluate after the whole might or after an activity? I work in OSHC and Vacation Care,so I'm owndering if my insistence on evaluating has something to do with that. Is evaluating (whether as that word or even an 'asking everyone how it went question') important to you as Leaders or is it only done sometimes? 

Also,do you give your girls/their parents a copy of the term's program? Other Units I know do,but some Leaders say that older girls can read and then choose which nights thye will come to.

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From:jessstretch
Date:February 16th, 2008 10:59 am (UTC)
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As to planning for 5-10 year olds, I don't know how many girls you have, but in my unit we have a fair few, and just this year are starting to separate the activities they do into older and younger. Not completely separating them, just so the older girls don't get bored by what the younger ones find "OMGchallenging". But I spose it depends on your numbers.

We always let the girls evaluate if we are doing a big activity (theme nights, camp, Wide game, etc), usually we do the thumbs up thumbs down thing.

We also give out a term program, that has the theme of the night, and what the girls are required to bring on the night. We find this works really well, and don't have any girls skipping out. In our unit we give them each a little A5 exercise book, and get them to keep it in their bags. We get them to past one program in their book, and give one to their parents to stick on the fridge or whatever.

Hope that helps somewhat! :D
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From:blue_tulips_05
Date:February 17th, 2008 02:04 am (UTC)

yay...a comment

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thats a good idea about splitting the age groups. there's 11 girls,but i do have 2 other unit helpers so we could split activities. seems like a really obvious idea,dunno why i didnt think of it before :/ i could set different 'challenges' or activities evne for a section of the night

good to hear that others evaluate too. yea,i think giving out a program would be useful,particularly if the girls have a copy as well. rather then typing out notes each week ie next week is harmony day wear something orange when they've only got a week 2 prepare. it can get the girls excited in the progam.
did help,thanks :)
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From:jessstretch
Date:February 17th, 2008 03:04 am (UTC)

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11 should be alright to split...
to give you an example of the way we split them, a few weeks ago we had a Year Of The Rat night, and did Rat/Chinese themed stuff. The older girls cooked Fried Rice, while the younger girls made rats out of pear halves and licorice tails, etc.

Hah, your numbers are so much different to ours! We currently have almost 25 girls...and two Senior Leaders, two Leaders-In-Training and a Junior Leader. Usually we take one of four patrols each, and one of the Senior Leaders does an Overseer sort of job..

Glad it helped!
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Date:February 17th, 2008 03:44 am (UTC)

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yea,even small groups would work. i am trying to increase the numbers,but its only happening slowly at the moment.
i think part of the issue is,altough its in a suburban area,there are 3 different guide units with 15mins max of mine. most of whom are thriving,similar numbers to yours 20-30. and maybe its good ot have the smaller numbers for a bit.

cute idea for making rats =)
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From:jessstretch
Date:February 17th, 2008 05:54 am (UTC)

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Ahh, that could be your issue, if you have other close groups. I'm in Sunbury, 30 mins NW of melb, and we are one of two groups for our age group in our town. The other group doesn;t have as many. Which I think may b because we have better organisation/activities/etc.
Hopefully you can build up your numbers once you get settled. :)
I can take no credits for the rats...our Guide Hall has had a meeting/storage room stuffed full of cupboards full of activity books, prayer books, games books, rule books, story books, campfire song books, those fake toadstools the Brownies used to skip round, spiders, flags, tents, etc. Haha, if I never need anything for anything, I go there. It's like an endless pit of stuff. :)
From:sardonicpotato
Date:February 16th, 2008 03:01 pm (UTC)
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I probably don't evaluate as much as I should... I'll give the thumbs up/down trick a try, it sounds simple but effective.
With my older girls, we often sit down and discuss things after they've run a night, or if we've had a big event, but I should choose some smaller things to evaluate as well.

I do think that it's important not to go overboard with it mind you, sometimes it's good just to do something without any of the evaluating/debriefing strings attached to it.

As for the term program yes I do give it out, and pretty much all the units i've visited have. I personally think the 'the girls will read it and not come' argument is a cop-out, because there shouldn't be anything in your program that the girls hate the sound of so much they don't show up.

I haven't had to do this (yet), but if girls were doing a pick-and-choose trick regularly I think it would be time for a frank discussion with the parents "we are not a childcare service, we expect a regular commitment and to be informed of absences in advance etc."

But sure things like knots and whatever can be boring for some girls, but it's all about presenting it in a more interesting way (easier said than done though I know, heh)
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From:blue_tulips_05
Date:February 17th, 2008 02:13 am (UTC)
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thats true,it can be important to evalute major things,and an older group can be more suited to a discussion. but good point,not everything has to be evaluated,doing things jsut for the fun of it is ok as well.

after these comments i think i will be giving out a program. just for the girls' and parents information. i heard the 'girls wont show up' argument from the leader i took over from and some of that was her planning (well,from what i can gather) nearly everything for the term without much input from the girls. and really it can just be a simple 'theme night- please bring something' rather then detailing everything.

i'll have to remind parents to give me a call when their girls cant show up,it jsut seems courteous and obvious to me. i always give out my home phone number on notes so maybe its time for a little reminder. actually,i think the problem is deeper and that the girls aren't keen/committed to guides. i'm hoping ot change that though
yea,tying a reef knot with a lolly snake always works for knots hehe.
thanks 4 your help

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